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    Very interesting! No surprize!

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    Abdullah Adam

    Quran 2:42 And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know [it].
    How did the original article at the Daily Fail (Mail) of the UK move from loads of “maybe” and “if” and “perhaps” to predates (for sure) as the title suggests?
    For those who want a balanced and rational argument I suggest you read
    Dr Jonathan Brown of Georgetown University in DC who wrote an article about it that can be found here: http://www.drjonathanbrown.com/2015/how-should-rationalists-deal-with-dogmatism-the-case-of-the-birmingham-quran-pages

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      Jonathan Brown is a convert to Islam and doesn’t let that fact be known in his article. The reason why there has been so much fuss about the implications of the carbon dating of these Birmingham manuscripts is because they are not the oldest ‘Quranic’ manuscripts. The Sana ones are older but their initial carbon dating results were rejected as erroneous because they were so out of line with the Islamic tradition. Now those earlier results are now being taken more seriously. Further results are due to be published and I suspect they will also pre-date Muhammad, The game is up for Islam I’m afraid.

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    New Man

    “What the tests revealed initially, was that the parchment originated around 1,370 years ago. Later tests, however, have revealed that it may have originated as far back as 1,448 years ago.”
    Like the article suggests, dating is an imprecise science. There’s no reason – from this article at least – why the earlier date has been favoured over the later one given what is already known historically. Furthermore, the ink itself hasn’t been dated. The article is filled with ifs and buts and cannot be taken seriously.

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